In 2023 I was with Klaudia and Daniel Neuhoff one week in Pakistan, invited by the Pakistani Organic Association. I gave many talks and have seen very much: from Islamabad till Multan: research institutions, people, farmers, rural, urban, ... The host gave very much efforts to make all smart and easy. The image of the country in the world was aware for them, and they did not like it. I was the change for them to change a little bit. And I must state, the country is not like we see it in the media in Germany: it is beautifull, hard working and friendly. Neverthess, the climate change and the populatin growth will challenge the country in the future.